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#21 Otto von Bizmark

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Posted 16 August 2007 - 09:54 PM

wow ive been busy for the past couple o' days and i just realized that i was not only killed but also i was the first one that the cop investigated
anyhoo it was kind of nice beein dead didnt have no responsibility :skull:
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Posted 16 August 2007 - 10:04 PM

View PostMeathe, on Aug 16 2007, 12:10 PM, said:

I think Kittyn saying 'wonky' was the begining of the end for me.

I knew you and Mono had to be mafia. I couldn't decided if Malf was cop or mafia.

Sorry, to me you seemed like Mafia.

Sorry I didn't play the game to the liking of others but I'm glad I protected Adam.

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Posted 16 August 2007 - 10:42 PM

View PostWebKittyn, on Aug 16 2007, 06:04 PM, said:

Sorry I didn't play the game to the liking of others but I'm glad I protected Adam.

I don't think you played badly at all. I was wonky (and plotting for Town domination). When you called me on that, everyone else knew there was something wrong. It was a good call (as was protecting Adam. And in hindsight, I should have locked up Dave or Mono instead of him).
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Posted 16 August 2007 - 11:56 PM

View Postmonogodo, on Aug 14 2007, 06:34 PM, said:

....What made you think I was IllumiMafia?

It just dawned on me. I added the Illuminati badge under my avatar at the start of the game, in hopes of throwing off the townspeople. Could that have been why you thought I was MafIlluminati?
no, it had nothing to do with the icon. rather, i thought that as there were so many new roles in play, there was a pretty good chance that there was a Mafia-Illuminati. i did not believe that it was Chad, so it would have to be you.

this is not the only reason, i'm going to have to go back and read through the Mafia Chat to remember why i had such a strong case built.
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Posted 17 August 2007 - 12:56 AM

View PostMeathe, on Aug 14 2007, 11:03 AM, said:

For G&Ts and other mixed drinks, anything with heavy botanicals. Bombay Sapphire, Gordon's, Tanqueray.

For martinis, Noilly Prat dry vermouth (its French, but owned by an Italian company. The Italian vermouths, without exception, are terrible) and Hendrick's gin. Shaken, no garnish. A great many brain cells died to bring you this information.
have you ever had your glass "rinsed" with Chartreuse? i've heard it makes a dry martini extra sublime.
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Posted 17 August 2007 - 01:06 AM

View Postmalfouka, on Aug 16 2007, 08:56 PM, said:

have you ever had your glass "rinsed" with Chartreuse? i've heard it makes a dry martini extra sublime.

I tend to rinse with vermouth. Too much is bad. I haven't tried Chatreuse, but have had a smokey martini (gin + small dash of single malt scotch).
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Posted 17 August 2007 - 01:18 AM

Sounds zesty. :lol:
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Posted 17 August 2007 - 02:49 AM

Yeah Bacon did vote to lynch to me, but I just ignored it. And he didn't really say much so i guess I was in the clear. Since this was my first game I have to say that this was fun as hell. Thanks everyone
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Posted 17 August 2007 - 02:51 AM

I didn't want to push it too much because I didn't know if you noticed or not. Dammit, now I wish I had.
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Posted 17 August 2007 - 03:00 AM

Especially since you investigated me. Had you come out and announced you were the cop you could have blown up my entire spot. I was really using the 'noob' angle so as not to draw too much attention to myself. You were dead on man.
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Posted 20 August 2007 - 05:18 AM

I have a question...

If there are Illuminati and they can discuss things amongst themselves - and there is a mafia and those players can discuss things amongst themselves, isn't this really just a game between the illuminati and the mafia with townsfolk being tossed in as buffers?

Townspeople go in knowing that the only person they can say with utter certainty is innocent is themselves, but mafia and illuminati can narrow their choices down considerably because they know who the people are on their team and I honestly can't think of any scenario where the townsfolk will ultimately win, considering in this game the number of townies vs the number of illuminati and mafia combined were of equal number.

Am I getting it all wrong? or what...
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Posted 20 August 2007 - 05:50 PM

View PostDeb, on Aug 20 2007, 01:18 AM, said:

I have a question...

If there are Illuminati and they can discuss things amongst themselves - and there is a mafia and those players can discuss things amongst themselves, isn't this really just a game between the illuminati and the mafia with townsfolk being tossed in as buffers?

Townspeople go in knowing that the only person they can say with utter certainty is innocent is themselves, but mafia and illuminati can narrow their choices down considerably because they know who the people are on their team and I honestly can't think of any scenario where the townsfolk will ultimately win, considering in this game the number of townies vs the number of illuminati and mafia combined were of equal number.

Am I getting it all wrong? or what...
As I've stated in various posts pleading my innocence: The advantage that the townies have is that they outnumber the Illuminated and the Mafioso. While, I may not have been innocent, I stand by that assertion.

The only reason that the Townies aren't hopelessly outgunned in the variant from the last game, is because the Mafia and Illuminati are not working together, they have to destroy the other (along with the townspeople) to win.
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The Townies in that last game didn't help each other out, because they didn't work together. Sure the Illuminati and Mafia get secret forums to talk in, but the townies have the Game thread to talk in. They can compare notes and make strategy. Mafia and Illuminati will surely try to influence that, but the townies, especially if they keep an eye on voting records, should be able to work around that.

Unfortunately, many of the players seem to have adopted a "I'll just shut up and lay low" strategy. This strategy harms the Townies in the end. Shutter tried to talk to you guys. He tried to figure out what was going on... but you said, "All this talking is suspicious," and you hung him. Let Shutter be an example to all of you.

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Posted 20 August 2007 - 06:24 PM

Ditto. Also, except for last game, the Illuminati are usually on the Town's side. The game pits the informed minority (mob) against the uninformed majority (town). Generally speaking, the less chatter amongst the Town in the game thread, the easier it is for the mob to manipulate the vote.
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Posted 20 August 2007 - 06:36 PM

View Postjeckles, on Aug 18 2007, 03:50 PM, said:

Shutter tried to talk to you guys. He tried to figure out what was going on... but you said, "All this talking is suspicious," and you hung him. Let Shutter be an example to all of you.

What the fuck ever. I understand you and Shutter are in love and all, but if his strategy was so awesome, it wouldn't have gotten him lynched. He basically made the same mistake Dave did last game...overexplaining and overspeaking when it's completely unnecessary. It's not like he was the only one who said anything. I talked. WebKittyn talked. Shutter just talked too fucking much. Let Shutter be an example to Shutter. My mistake was expecting that people who were mafioso before wouldn't make the same mistakes they did in the past. I should've stuck with voting to lynch Mal, but I didn't. My bad. But Shutter didn't get lynched due to his game playing expertise by any means.
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Posted 20 August 2007 - 09:08 PM

View PostAdam, on Aug 18 2007, 04:36 PM, said:

...I should've stuck with voting to lynch Mal, but I didn't. My bad. ...
honestly, i don't think there was any way i would ever have been lynched.
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Posted 20 August 2007 - 09:25 PM

View Postmalfouka, on Aug 18 2007, 07:08 PM, said:

honestly, i don't think there was any way i would ever have been lynched.

I completely agree. Sticking with that vote would've been completely pointless on my part.
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Posted 21 August 2007 - 12:00 AM

View PostAdam, on Aug 20 2007, 02:36 PM, said:

What the fuck ever. I understand you and Shutter are in love and all, but if his strategy was so awesome, it wouldn't have gotten him lynched. He basically made the same mistake Dave did last game...overexplaining and overspeaking when it's completely unnecessary. It's not like he was the only one who said anything. I talked. WebKittyn talked. Shutter just talked too fucking much. Let Shutter be an example to Shutter. My mistake was expecting that people who were mafioso before wouldn't make the same mistakes they did in the past. I should've stuck with voting to lynch Mal, but I didn't. My bad. But Shutter didn't get lynched due to his game playing expertise by any means.
Calm down tough guy.

Trust me, I'm not claiming that Shutter is some genuis at this game.

I was just trying to add some humor to the point that the townies would be better served if the worked together, instead of showing up voting for some one and then disappearing till the next round.

And obviously some of the townies, like yourself did talk. But not enough of you.

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Posted 21 August 2007 - 12:05 AM

I was going to talk but I had no clue and was waiting for my investigations to get in.
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