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[Dave]

Star Trek. JJ Abrams. Super Bowl trailer

[Dave]

Anyone going to see Star Trek 90210?

[Chad]

Everyone I talked to who say it loved it. From trekkies to my mother. I might go see it.

[Deb]

I've seen it I've seen it and it was fucking aweeeeeeeeeeeeeesommmmmmmmmmmmmmmmme


Am I nerdy if I admit to seeing it six times now?

[Chad]

That's how many times I saw Transformers in theaters 2 years ago. So yes.

[Deb]

Nerdy and proud

[Meathe]

As you all know, I'm probably not the biggest Star Trek fan in the world.

I must confess I do actually like Star Trek. Having said that, this is the first Star Trek movie I've enjoyed thoroughly from beginning to end ('Generations' was the last Trek film I'd seen) and would go see again.

1. There were plenty of effects, but all of them served a purpose in the plot, rather than being plot substitutes.
2. The story was fantastic.
3. The acting was great (very well cast as look-alikes well). Bones was exceptional. I think Pike carried the Kirk role very well.
4. A very interesting reworking of the Star Trek universe.
5. Many references to episodes/films (The Kobyashi Maru hearing is almost word-for-word to the simulator review in Wrath of Khan)
6. Also, Kirk spends a lot of time being punched in the face.

On the down side, there's things to pick at, largely from technical standpoint, and there one particular scene that veered into to slapstick, but it didn't last that long. Also the green alien, who looked much like a person who'd been for a spray tan, and they'd switched the oompa-loompa orange with generic alien green.

On the whole, I felt it was better than Wrath of Khan (though Ceti Eels are far better than Centurion Slugs.)

Damn good summer movie.

[Deb]

The green woman was an Orion, and it was a reference to the original star trek series and Kirk (I think) wanted to pork her.

Or maybe he did. There were so many...

[Frankie Pitt]

I don't think Kirk ever got to bang an Orion girl (or, to put it in TV terms, "romanced") on the show. They only appear in a few episodes. A shapeshifter appears as a dancing Orion slave girl in the pilot (and that footage gets reused later in the series), and there's the one where Yvonne Craig, (a.k.a. Batgirl) is the loony Orion girl who attempts to seduce, then kill Kirk in one fell swoop. There might be one in the animated series, but I haven't seen those since I was a kid--although my DVD set awaits. Off camera, though, I think Kirk sampled every flavor of woman, human and alien. He was that kinda captain.

But yeah, aside from a couple of dopey "comedy" bits (those damn chubby hands...), this was a great movie. I even got misty at one point. Well, at two points. But I'm gay for Star Trek, what can I tell ya?

[Deb]

Thank you for clearing that up Frankie! I knew you would As soon as I saw the green girl, I knew it was a reference to something from the original series but seeing as I hated the original Kirk and Spock (or Kock and Spirk as I used to call them) I only saw the original series about 100 years ago when I was a wee one.

I'm gay for Star Trek, too, but only from TNG onwards (although if they redid the series with the new cast, I'd watch it). Shatner's chop/change speech patterns used to piss me right the fuck off.

[Frankie Pitt]

I hear ya, Deb. I think if I hadn't grown up with Classic Trek, I might feel differently about it now. But I watched those episodes so often as a kid, Kirk and Spock are like quirky relatives that show up on Christmas. They're mildly annoying after an hour, but they bring nice presents. Even the bad episodes ("Spock's Brain") are somewhat endearing to me.

I tried and tried to take to TNG, but generally, I found it too talky and pretentious (at times) to become addictive. There were times I'd watch it and just want to scream "Hit something! Shoot that guy!" But regardless, there are some truly kick-ass episodes in the series run. Most of the Borg stuff, and especially "Yesterday's Enterprise." Some good characters, too. One of the reasons I enjoyed Star Trek: First Contact was because it pushed the action element, which was, for me, all the TV series really needed.

Now, talking about of both sides of my mouth, I guess...I kinda love Voyager. It's sloppy and dopey and illogical (they have so many opportunities to leave the Delta Quadrant and return home, but Janeway wants the Enterprise to get there by good old "hard work," even if it takes 75 - 90 years), and nothing ever really happens, but it pressed by little "Lost in Space" buttons and I watched it all the way through.

It's too bad that crew never made it to a feature film, but I guess their story was told, start to finish, over the course of seven seasons.

[Deb]

You mentioned Lost in Space.

I heart you.

[Dave]

I'll go with not crap. Nice action movie, but not one I'd likely see again. Although I grew up on the old tv series, I can't say I've ever been attached to the Star Trek universe. I didn't hate the new Kirk, but he didn't do anything for me either. He's just a pretty boy. He has no 'weight' on screen. He's almost like a cross between teen flick quarterback and skeevy Larry from Three's Company. And the plot? Uh, fellas, look, if you define a black hole as a tool to destroy a planet then it can't also be an interdimensional doorway. Why does it only destroy some matter? Second, if it's going to be a planet-destroyer, then why the drill business? You don't need a drill. Just park it next to the planet. You'll get the same result.

Regardless, it was a fun ride and I like that they kept the humor in. Happy to netflix it rather than see it in a theater, and the sequel will get the same treatment.

[malfouka]

Watched this last night. Not crap. Liked it quite a bit but then again, I'm not, and have never been, a "Trekkie" so I have/had no loyalty or expectations one way or the other. There are, of course, a few inexplicable goings-on but strangely they didn't, for me, detract from the enjoyability of the film. Plus, I really dig Starfleet Academy being located in San Francisco.

[Deb]

I've been having problems with Star Trek.

Geof decided he wanted to watch them all over the weekend and I have questions.

[Dave]

Deb, on 07 January 2010 - 12:16 AM, said:

I've been having problems with Star Trek.

Geof decided he wanted to watch them all over the weekend and I have questions.

It's too bad you don't belong to a place like, say, an internet forum, where you could ask these questions.

[Deb]

Sorry. I was rushing to a job interview (because I lost track of time in here).

Okay...

So the whole great thing about Star Trek is that we live in a world where there's no poverty, no war and money isn't that big a deal anymore because rather than be involved in the pursuit of wealth, we've become explorers.

In First Contact, it is mentioned that within 50 years after Zephrem Cochrane goes on the first flight with warp capabilities (April 5, 2063) that all of this would come into play. So basically all this great stuff happens in 2163 or there abouts.

So... how come, in 2253, Kirk is wanting to BUY a drink for Uhura? Why is there money? How come there's violence in the bar? Don't we not do the war thing anymore?

We can't blame the paradox because the Romulan Nero doesn't fuck up the universe until stardate 223304 (which, I've always wondered... is that the year and month? April 2233? And, if so, what's the big deal about fucking APRIL?) so what's up with that?

Also... if mankind has finally found its place in the universe (and, kind of at the bottom, if you ask me) and we've worked out that we're not that important after all because we were a primitive planet right up till Zephrem blasted off into space, how the fuck did we become homebase for the Federation?

Answers, thanks.

[Dave]

Deb, on 07 January 2010 - 07:27 AM, said:

So the whole great thing about Star Trek is that we live in a world where there's no poverty, no war and money isn't that big a deal anymore because rather than be involved in the pursuit of wealth, we've become explorers.

Is it true that there's no poverty, etc in the Star Trek universe? I remember there being some naive world peace thing that united the Federation, but no poverty or pursuit of wealth? Is Roddenberry that naive? Or was this a more recent fleshing out of the universe?

[Deb]

Picard said it, so it must be true.

I'm just loving how Earth is still so freaken important.


I was googling to see where I heard about the non-pursuit of wealth and came across this gem

[monogodo]

Deb, on 08 January 2010 - 01:45 AM, said:

Picard said it, so it must be true.

I'm just loving how Earth is still so freaken important.


I was googling to see where I heard about the non-pursuit of wealth and came across this gem

Ahh, but Picard comes after Kirk. So money/wealth may have been important and/or necessary at the time Kirk wanted to buy Uhura a drink, but by the time Picard was captain of the Enterprise, it had become unnecessary.